Listen to conversations about Flipping the Narrative on violence and abuse towards women and girls

Sarah Everard’s death provides a teachable moment for men to be actively involved in new conversations to end misogyny. With the podcast’s encouragement to ‘pass it on’ to other men, Flipping The Narrative shows men that they can help each other to sit up, start conversations, and support each other and women.

Flipping The Narrative is the new podcast from Elmore Community Services, hosted by Luke Jerdy and Liz Jones, accompanied by a new spoken word performance by Luke who is also known for his portrayal of Jesse Donovan in Channel 4's Hollyoaks from 2016 to 2020. Liz has worked in the Violence against Women and Girls field for 16 years and has facilitated and developed programmes for men who choose to be abusive and violent towards partners.

In ‘What it Means to be a Man’, we talk to Josh and Conroy about their experiences of what masculinity meant to them growing up and how gender roles are embedded within our society. We question the effect expectations are having on young men today and how society is getting better at challenging these stereotypes. We dig into how trauma early in life affects men’s views on their own masculinity and what can be done to change this.

Actor George Bukhari joins us for this deeply personal episode about how the death of his Dad when he was 8 gave him anger issues which were later diagnosed as trauma induced anger by a therapist. We discuss the implications of growing up being angry has on romantic relationships, friendships and ultimately how it makes you feel about yourself. We also talk about how anger is generally accepted by society as a 'masculine' trait and what we can do to change that perception.

In this episode, we are joined by barrister Grace Gwynne. We first became aware of Grace after seeing her TED Talk, Fighting For a Place in the Old Boys Club - law is one of the oldest professions in the world but still to this day its incredibly dominated by men. In court rooms – the place where justice is done – sexual harassment is happening. Not by the people being convicted – but by the people who are prosecuting and defending.

In this episode former Police Superintendent Rod Diaz is our guest on this episode to talk about his experience of misogyny within the Metropolitan Police Force from the 80s up to the present day, and the changes he’s seen in that time. As has been highlighted recently with tragic high profile cases such as that of Sarah Everard, Rod feels there is still a long way to go in eliminating this misogynistic culture from our police force and we discuss what needs to happen to really make a difference.

In this episode we’re joined by Abi Wycherley, a Violence Against Women and Girls Coordinator, and Dan Leigh who works to rehabilitate sexual offenders at Circle South East, to talk about the impact of porn on young men and how watching pornography can have a lasting impact on their future relationships. We talk about the need for proper Sexual Education in schools, ethical porn that focuses more on highlighting the intimate side of sex, and why revenge porn is on the rise and what can be done about it.

Delroy Taylor joins us for this incredibly personal episode to share his story of growing up with an abusive step father and how that led to him having issues with alcohol as an adult. Del tells us how he’s managed to start to come to terms with what happened to him as a child and how giving up alcohol played a massive part in that. We discuss why there needs to be more support for children going through similar issues and what that could look like going forward.

In this episode, we are joined by Dr Stephen Burrell, an Assistant Professor in the Sociology Department at Durham University, the Deputy Director, Durham Centre for Research into Violence and Abuse, and trustee for the charity White Ribbon, a leading charity that is ending men's violence against women by engaging with men and boys to make a stand against violence.

In this episode we’re joined by father of five Jay Worthy for this episode to discuss what it means to be a father. Jay has a mix of boys and girls - or "both flavours" as he calls it - and we talk about his approach to fatherhood and the concerns he has for both his boys and his girls as they grow up in our society.